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Aug 5, 2010 19:07:10 GMT -5
Post by leavemebe on Aug 5, 2010 19:07:10 GMT -5
I really don't care about the names, like I said I am not that great at naming so I kind of expect them to be changed.
On a different note, I don't remember seeing this suggested so I will go ahead and say it. If in the event that a slave gets maxed in whatever class; rather then have that be the end, maybe it would be possible to set up some form of mentoring. That way if you are successful in creating a Godhand or some such, they could speed the training of other warriors or to a limited extent other crusaders. As a trade off if in the instance of a Godhand, they would limit or hinder the training of a black night or other "evil" class.
I realize that this is likely not something that would come up until likely several releases down the line, just thought I would put it out there.
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Aug 5, 2010 21:07:21 GMT -5
Post by slackerfuu on Aug 5, 2010 21:07:21 GMT -5
Asked a friend of mine for an alternative name for the sword maid chick. he replied with: The Goddamn Super-Maid. at the very least, it's slightly amusing.
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Aug 5, 2010 21:24:16 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 5, 2010 21:24:16 GMT -5
I'm going to Post the Most recent list, as I believe sufficient changes have been made.
Revised List (3)
'Restricted' Denotes that the class is not available to all slaves.
~Combat~
Basic~
Warrior - Weapons, Armor, Shields Rogue - Deceit, Acrobatics, Agility
Advanced~
Soldier (from Warrior) Dragoon (from Soldier)
Samurai (from Warrior) Iajutsu Master(from Samurai)
Martial Artist (From Warrior) Seifu (from Martial Artist)
Hunter (from Warrior) Ranger (from Hunter)
Dervish (from Warrior) Immortal (from Dervish)
Thief (from Rogue) Master Thief (from Thief)
Archer (From Rogue) Sniper (From Archer)
Fencer (from Rogue) Duelist (from Rogue)
Ninja (from Warrior, Rogue) Master Ninja (From Ninja) Kunoichi (from Ninja, Sex Slave)
Assassin (Warrior, Rogue)
Attendant (Warrior, Maid)
Cat Burglar (From Rogue, House Pet - Cat)
~Magic~
Basic~
Mage - Magic Power, Intelligence, Arcane Theory Alchemist - Potions, Elixirs, Transmutations Acolyte - Light, Dark, Faith. This class is mutually exclusive with mage.
Advanced~
Elementalist - Fire Magic, Water Magic, Earth Magic, Air Magic. Restricted to Three, of course. Pyromancer (from Elementalist) Aquamancer (from Elementalist) Geomancer (from Elementalist) Aeromancer (from Elementalist)
Lustmage (from Mage, Sex Slave) Fylomancer (from Lustmage)
Witch (from Mage, Alchemist) - Hexes, Curses, Drafts Coven Mistress (from Witch) - Restricted.
Cleric (From light aligned Acolytes) Priestess/Miko, (From Cleric) Cultist (From dark aligned Acolytes) Depraved Cultist (from Cultist)
Paladin (From Warrior, Light aligned acolytes) - Sword, Block, Holy Power Godhand (from Paladin) - Restricted. Black Knight (from warrior, dark aligned acolytes) - Sword, Block, Unholy Power God Slayer (from Black Knight) - Restricted.
~Utility~ Basic~ Maid - Cleaning, Cooking, Service. Implemented.
Musician - Singing, Dancing, Instrument. Implemented.
Whore - Presentation, Entertaining, Stamina. Implemented.
S & M Pet - Bondage, Discipline, Control
House Pet - Cat Mimicry, Dog Mimicry, Bunny Mimicry. Implemented.
Farm Pet - Cow Mimicry, Horse Mimicry, Pig Mimicry
Merchant - Rumoring, Luck, Trading
Advanced~
Dominatrix (from initiating many acts as S & M Pet) - Whipping, Tying, Humilating Sadist (from Dominatrix) - Sadism, Anatomy, Dominance Submissive Slave (from Discipline S&M Pet) - Whipped, Tied, Humiliation Masochist (from Submissive Slave) - Masochism, Healing, Willingness
Pony Girl (from Farm Pet) - Trotting, Grooming, Plowing Race Pony (from Trotting Pony Girl) - Speed, Endurance, Dressage Show Pony (from Grooming Pony Girl) - Presentation, Manners, Conformation Work Pony (From Plowing Pony Girl) - Pulling, Sexual, Persistence Stallion Pony Girl (From Futa Slave, Pony Girl) = Sexual, Girth, Length
Cow Girl (from Farm Pet) - Milking, Mooing, Stall Tolerance Milk Cow (from Milking Cow Girl) - Volume, Quality, Production
Pig Girl (From Farm Pet) - Wallowing, Eating, Size. Mutually exclusive with Maid Class Pig Slut (From Pig Girl) - Pregnancy, Gestation, Breeding.
Noble Heir - Etiquette, Refinement, leadership. Restricted.
Bureaucrat (From Rumors, Trading Merchant) - Bureaucracy, Politics, Delegation Secretary (From Bureaucrat) - Linguistics, Presence, Tasking Shop Keeper (From Luck, Trading Merchant) -
A lot done today, too. Suggestions
Rename the Sadist's 'Dominance' to 'Callousness.' Keep the original effect (the aura suggestion makes a bit less sense, and there are many classes that would have a much more influential presence.)
Rename the Merchant's "Rumors" to 'Gossiping.'
Rename the Bureaucrat's "Presence" to 'Charisma.'
Leave, both of those ideas pre-suppose some sort of genetics system. While that may be ok, I don't see why Farm Animals would get an edge in giving birth to exceptional children as compared to say, a Paladin. It's a novel idea, nevertheless. Thanks for your contributions.
If we want to make the name amusing, we could probably do better than "slightly." Go on Slack, give it your all.
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Aug 5, 2010 21:56:04 GMT -5
Post by leavemebe on Aug 5, 2010 21:56:04 GMT -5
Hmm, I see your point sword and I agree. One class shouldn't have a general edge over the other classes. Will see if I can think of a way to balance it out.
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Aug 5, 2010 23:36:32 GMT -5
Post by slackerfuu on Aug 5, 2010 23:36:32 GMT -5
If we want to make the name amusing, we could probably do better than "slightly." Go on Slack, give it your all. Then how about: Girl you enslaved and decided it would be a good idea to teach fighting techniques to, give a broom sword and ask her to follow you around all day. Might be a bit long though. Realized that might be taken as a sarcastic comment against the class. it might be (not really sure myself). but it'd still be fun to have in the game. (the class, not the name)
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Post by swordwind on Aug 6, 2010 0:42:34 GMT -5
I've Re-ordered the list, placing related terms together, fixing errors, & deleting redundancies or illogial choices.
~Animal-Related~ Animal Handling Animal Kinship Fishing Hunting Tracking
~Beauty~ Appearance Performance Presence Style
~Crime~ Bribery Forgery Larceny Thievery Intimidation Opportunism Lock Picking
~Combat~ Archery Ballistics Brawling Marksmanship Martial Arts Thrown Weapons
~Craft~ Acting Artistry Craftsmanship
~Eroticism~ Fellatio Flirting Menage a Trois Seduction
~Healing~ Physician Healing Medicine
~Interaction with the Field~ Athletics Awareness Dungeoneering Insight Investigation Perception Street Smarts Survival
~Leadership~ Commanding Fame Status Tactics Warmastery
~Religous~ Ritualism Occultry Theology
~Personal Traits (Mental)~ Charisma Compassion Conviction Discipline Empathy Essence Honor Integrity Moxie Temperance Valor Willpower Wisdom
~Personal Traits (Mental, Bad)~ Animosity Pugnacity Blood Lust
~Personal Traits (Physical)~ Constitution Dexterity Fortitude Resistance Stamina Strength
~Speech~ Bluffing Conversation Courtier Manipulation Socializing Story Telling Tea Ceremony Trading
~Stealth~ Disguising Evasion Infiltration Scout Stealth
~Study~ Academics Arcana Instruction Literacy Lore Mastery Research Science Spellcraft
~Other~ Calligraphy Divination Engineering Games Glory Initiative Navigation Prophecy Poisons Sailing Traps
Kenjutsu Iajutsu Jiujutsu
I'll make more unique additions to the list sometime soon.
Slacker, even with the lack of adjective agreement in that statement, it was only worthy of a giggle. I was expecting you to go off totally on a tangent, and suggest 'Master Chief.'
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Post by slackerfuu on Aug 6, 2010 1:18:23 GMT -5
you sure it was even worth a giggle? was mainly being sarcastic then anyway. sorry for not meeting your expectations. don't like halo anyway, so wouldn't've occurred to me.
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Post by swordwind on Aug 6, 2010 1:31:20 GMT -5
It's very rude to not mark your sarcastic comments with <s> </s> html code. Please keep that in mind in the future.
Master Chief was a suggestion. Other acceptable nominees include Romeo, King Leonidas, Roach, Tenshi, Reimu, the Pope, Michael jackson, or Shaq.
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Post by slackerfuu on Aug 6, 2010 1:43:38 GMT -5
Never knew that. how bout Tingle?
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Post by flagnine1 on Aug 6, 2010 7:40:16 GMT -5
thanks for the organization sword.
Kenjutsu, Iajutsu, and Jiujutsu are all combat skills. Swords, Dueling/drawing the weapon cuts and unarmed respectively.
I can agree to all those skill name changes.
once again if anyone wants to feel free to flesh out a class. we will just yell at you if you get it wrong and fix it.
Daisy are we allowed to mess with the advanced classes in the classes you created or do you have them already figured out?
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Post by daisy_strike on Aug 6, 2010 8:14:36 GMT -5
Daisy are we allowed to mess with the advanced classes in the classes you created or do you have them already figured out? I'm going to steal heavily and mix and match once I restart adding classes. Advance classes are more I want to do it but don't have them set in stone even in my mind kind of thing. Also a super maid is an Alice Daisy
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Aug 6, 2010 14:58:50 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 6, 2010 14:58:50 GMT -5
first I like the breeder idea for the stallion. basically the pig and stallion would be something like a catalyst. the offspring they breed have an increased chance to be a purebred of the other parent. so if say you have a prime pyromancer you can breed her with either the pig or horse you have a higher chance of getting a prime mage. I would say that all the classes can breed together just these 2 have something special about them. I will throw purebred up under status' after this is done to explain it a bit better.
from Maid with 100 in cooking she can go receive more formal training at the local restaurant. This will advance her to the Cook class.
Cook Entrees- slave's ability to make entrees Baking- slave's ability to bake breads Pastries - slave's ability to make pastries and sweets.
basically all food items increase happiness and health to different degrees the cook class allows you to create the most basic of these items. upon getting one of these skills to 100 you can return to the restaurant and receive further training.
High Entrees leads to the Chef class
High Baking leads to the Baker class
High Pastries leads to the Patisserie class
on another note was thinking of having the sex, lez, futa, and combat classes be able to level. basically upon reaching 100% they roll over and gain a level starting with 2. so a sex slave at lvl 2 with a 35 in blow jobs actually has a skill of 135. and make them have a max lvl of 3.
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Aug 6, 2010 17:41:59 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 6, 2010 17:41:59 GMT -5
and the one I was actually planning on today
Lust Mage Illusions -slave's skill in creating and dispelling illusions Body Modifications -slave's skill in using magic to modify their own bodies for combat and pleasure Depravity- how creative the Lust Mage is. also determines how much lust is added as a bonus to spells.
the true goal of Lust Mages is to experience new sensations and share them with others. This being said the only limit to a Lust Mages power is there imagination and experience. Most Lust Mages are either Futas or soon become them.
There is only one class that a Lust Mage can become and that is a Fylomancer. It is the epitome of the craft. The main thing is Fylomancers get access to the most extreme body modifications as well as the ability to use them on others.
Fylomancer Fleshcraft- the slave's ability to create modifications on others. Illusion Mastery- a high rank in this skill means that the illusion created by this slave can be touched and felt. Modification Mastery- the higher this skill the more modifications a slave can learn.
body modifications come in 2 forms. the first is a spell this is a temporary buff and tend to increase arousal or sexual promiscuity. The second creates an item-like buff that is permanent. this item locks on once equipped and can only be deequiped thru the use of a spell.
The other thing I would like to see with body modifications is to learn them the Mage must experience them first hand. so to say learn the tentacle penis modification they first need to have sex with a tentacle monster.
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Aug 6, 2010 19:10:09 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 6, 2010 19:10:09 GMT -5
I don't quite think you fully grasped the issue, Flag.
Having slaves being able to mate with each other, you, or your assistant is fine on a game balance level (or at least capable of being fine.) Instituting some sort genetics is a bit more complicated.
There are multiple paths you may take.
First, the offspring may resemble the parents, but receive no other traits or benefits. This is probably the most balanced, and easiest to implement path.
Second, the offspring may resemble the parent, and benefit (or suffer) from developmental traits of the mother. This is relatively reasonable. Unfortunately, it would require us to separate traits into 'natural' & 'acquired' categories, and necessitate scripts to manage them.
Third, the offspring may resemble the parent, and benefit (or suffer) from the traits of the mother, both those natural to her and those acquired. If the slave acquired this trait through magical means, this may be reasonable (as magic, by definition, breaks the normal rules.) However, the passing of traits that were secured by any other method breaks most biological laws. Worse, this is, at best, slightly unbalancing.
Fourth, the offspring may resemble the parent, and receive the traits, status and/or class of their parent. This is the least logical and most unbalancing, and I strongly suggest that we don't even consider it.
Despite these considerations, I support the pig slut because its attributes speed-up the process of birth, its focus on its ability to breed with anything, not on increasing the quality of the children it births.
The "Prime" status requires special consideration. If the player is a prime (reasonable), and the player can have offspring with the slaves (reasonable), and the offspring of primes may be primes themselves (questionable), then the player may quickly increase the number of primes they control. Because primes, as I understand it, are supposed to be rare, if not unique, this is probably...bad.
In addition, if the player may impregnate slaves, which, as noted above, is reasonable, then the female slaver is at a fundamental disadvantage, especially if the prime trait may be passed on. Presumably, the female slaver can't impregnate females like a male of futa could. This is a much more minor issue, however, as a magic solution allowing for FxF of FxFuta impregnation could probably explain this away.
I ask for you to ponder these considerations.
Slacker, Tingle would have been unacceptable under most circumstances, but I'll allow it. I was already over-voted, though.
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Post by flagnine1 on Aug 7, 2010 3:54:53 GMT -5
damn you logic you rear your ugly head yet again.
First counter point is that if we are to have breeding in the game at all we need a system in place to control it. considering we all ready have items to help with aging the offspring I assume we are gonna need something.
Second it is a world of magic this means the laws of science and nature can be loosened a bit.
Third I believe Primes are described as personalities that tend to bend fate around them. They are not unique just rare. I seem to find one in the auction house about every 10 days or so.
Fourth to receive the classes that can breed true requires roughly 66 days (figured at 6 points per day for 400 skill points, that is 3 sessions training and 1 resting) of constant training in just this class. then another 16 days (and that is if the skills even increase via jobs instead of actual pregnancies) of constant training to get it reliably reproduce a prime (thinking making it at best a 25% chance). the quickest you can gestate is another 150 days (months in otherworld are 50 days). at which point you then need to put the offspring thru some sort of incubation that could last another months. This is not including the money involved in keeping and training the mother slave or the incubation fee. Also I can add that the mother cannot receive any other training while pregnant. so unless you have several pig girls in a breeding farm set up you are probably not going to create more primes than you can find and the primes you do manage to copy are gonna cost you more to make then they will sell for untrained at auction (about 500g).
Fifth I was figuring on using the stallion to override the said inability of non futas to breed.
Sixth since this game is more or less based on anime. and a reoccurring theme in anime is that the child of a bad ass <enter job/skill/class here> also turns out to be a bad ass in the same field. I felt it appropriate to copy it here.
Finally I probably miss wrote it basically the higher the skills for the stallion and pig are the more likely they are to copy the parent disregarding the farm pet. thus if you breed a non prime with farm animal who is a prime your chances of breeding a prime would be low (as the mechanics would look only at the non-farm girl). Yes I know this would make most geneticists scream and rip out there hair, but once again it is fantasy so some suspended belief is necessary.
thank you concern and hopefully we can get a working breeding system that we both can agree on.
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