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Aug 3, 2010 16:45:58 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 3, 2010 16:45:58 GMT -5
I am all for making any or all the top tier class restricted to prime only.
Black Knight used to be the anti-paladin prestige class in D&D that is why it was chosen. I like Godhand more then crusader (never played much dragon warrior unfortunately)
I believe the Dervish originated in the middle east, so I would like to keep it in the same region.
for the mages I think once you become an elementalist you have to choose your deficient element, the one you don't learn. thus still maintaining a representation of all 4 elements.
No Samurai were a noble class. In the same way the knights were. Just saying that what I am suggesting for the game is more like the Ronin class which could be anyone from a dishonored samurai to a peasant that got a weapon and learned to use it. Plus almost any peasant could become a samurai thru feats of courage in battle, until Tokagawa became shogun at least.
I can agree with the rest of what your saying.
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Aug 3, 2010 16:55:10 GMT -5
Post by slackerfuu on Aug 3, 2010 16:55:10 GMT -5
More about the ninja thing. Ninja should at least be able to make the items they use. They also may not have to sleep as much.
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Aug 3, 2010 17:09:40 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 3, 2010 17:09:40 GMT -5
so something like this slacker
Ninja Ninjutsu -ninja attack stat Subterfuge -makes it less likely enemies will notice and attack you Poisons(needs a better name)- making of ninja type items (its tacky but was thinking of using the 3 skills from naruto ninjutsu, taijutsu, and genjutsu tell me what you guys think?)
for every 10 points in ninjutsu the health cost of a job decreases by 2. thus at 100 ninjutsu jobs cost 13 health so you can do 7 jobs (roughly 2 days) before needing a rest.
unsure on the quest so if someone has something it was requested so I think the ninja teacher's name should be Neos tho.
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Aug 3, 2010 17:39:06 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 3, 2010 17:39:06 GMT -5
Revised List 2 'Restricted' Denotes that the class is not available to all slaves.
~Combat~
Basic~
Warrior - Weapons, Armor, Shields Rogue - Deceit, Acrobatics, Agility
Advanced~
Soldier(from Warrior) Dragoon (from Soldier)
Samurai (from Warrior) Iajutsu Master(from Samurai)
Martial Artist (From Warrior) Seifu (from Martial Artist)
Hunter (from Warrior) Ranger (from Hunter)
Dervish (from Warrior) Immortal (from Dervish)
Thief (from Rogue) Master Thief (from Thief)
Archer (From Rogue) Sniper (From Archer)
Tomb Robber (From Rogue)
Fencer (from Rogue) Duelist (from Rogue)
Ninja (from Warrior, Rogue) - Ninjutsu, Subterfuge, Preparations. Master Ninja (From Ninja) Kunoichi (from Ninja, Sex Slave)
Assassin (Warrior, Rogue)
Body Guard (Warrior, Maid)
Cat Burglar (From Rogue, House Pet - Cat)
~Magic~
Basic~
Mage - Magic Power, Intelligence, Arcane Theory Alchemist - Potions, Elixirs, Transmutations Acolyte - Light, Dark, Faith. This class is mutually exclusive with mage
Advanced~
Elementalist - Fire Magic, Water Magic, Earth Magic, Air Magic. Restricted to Three, of course. Pyromancer (from Elementalist) Aquamancer (from Elementalist) Geomancer (from Elementalist) Aeromancer (from Elementalist)
Lustmage (from Mage, Sex Slave) Fylomancer (from Lustmage)
Witch (from Mage, Alchemist) - Hexes, Curses, Drafts Coven Mistress (from Witch)
Cleric (From light aligned Acolytes) Priestess/Miko, (From Cleric) Cultist (From dark aligned Acolytes) Depraved Cultist (from Cultist)
Paladin (From Warrior, Light aligned acolytes) - Sword, Block, Holy Power Godhand (from Paladin) - Restricted. Black Knight (from warrior, dark aligned acolytes) - Sword, Block, Unholy Power God Slayer (from Black Knight) - Restricted.
~Utility~ Basic~
S & M Pet - Whipping, Tying, Humiliation Farm Pet - Cow Mimicry, Horse Mimicry, Pig Mimicry
Advanced~
Dominatrix (from initiating many acts as S & M Pet) Dom Queen (From Dominatrix) Submissive Slave/Masochist (from receiving many acts as S & M Pet) Sex Pet (from Submissive Slave)
Noble Heir - Etiquette, Refinement, leadership. Restricted.
General Agreements
The Ninja is More Utility, the Assassin is More Direct Combat.
Suggestions
Do we need a Tomb Robber if we have a thief?
Immortal---> Veteran/Mystic/Revered/PreferedAdjectiveHere Dervish Body Guard---> Still thinking
I have the Ninja's last Attribute as "Preparations" for now. A general term for making poisons and related tools.
The health bonus you suggest seems incredibly powerful. As a rule, passive effects should be marginal or moderate, especially if they have no cost.
I don't watch Naruto, but from what I understand, all of those are essentially spell classifications. Too make them all separate attributes would hamper the usefulness of the Class, in my humble opinion. I think the use of the Ninjutsu term is enough of a nod of the head.
Also, further efforts should probably be directed at fleshing out these classes, for now. If you feel the absolute, uncontrollable urge to think up new classes, they should be utility.
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Aug 3, 2010 17:39:59 GMT -5
Post by slackerfuu on Aug 3, 2010 17:39:59 GMT -5
Would the teacher for ninja be male or female? If male then maybe Hanzou or Masanari (according to Hanzou no Mon Masanari was Hanzou's name before he changed it) or Hiyoshi/Hideyoshi (apparently Hiyoshi was Hideyoshi's name). If female: Tsukumo (Hanzou's first wife), Kikkou (his second), or Tsukibue (his third wife). According to Hanzou no Mon, he was with all three at the same time and they all consented to it. (yes I really like that series. sucks that the sequel isn't done yet)
Maybe make ninja a base class as they were generally born into the role and taught the various techniques since they were really young. (again source is Hanzou no Mon. I trust it cause the mangaka's an old history professor. I assume he knows what he's talking about). Course, if that's the case, the slave would have to originally come with the class and the teachers would be there mainly to give quests or help advance skills and/or the class. Maybe teach the character different techniques/potions to make.
Regardless, I'd suggest Hanzou for teaching Preparations and Hideyoshi for Subterfuge.
With the health benefit, either get rid of it, or don't let it give such a large bonus until Kunoichi. That way it's not as incredibly useful. of course, if the slave needs to come with the job and there's no other way to acquire it then maybe make the bonuses a little larger.
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Aug 3, 2010 17:54:07 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 3, 2010 17:54:07 GMT -5
Ah, Ideas for the Body Guard Name---> Attendant, Custodian, Retainer, Escort. I like Attendant the most.
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Aug 3, 2010 17:57:13 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 3, 2010 17:57:13 GMT -5
You probably don't need to post that huge list every time sword.
and you are right we really can't say much on combat classes until we get a skeleton of a combat system or at least how skills stack in class trees.
ninja is good the way you have it preparations sounds right.
i don't think its gonna be that powerful of an ability. and you can always tone it down or give the class a drawback for it.
and yeah we can probably cut Tomb Robber.
for slacker someone on the blog suggested that Neos be involved somewhere in the ninja class as he had ninjaed a few of last months mystery girls beating people out but a few seconds.
I think my personal goal is for the game to have roughly 100 available classes. As this will lead to a huge amount of replay or continued play value. considering we have almost 60 now I don't think that will be to hard. coming up with roughly 300 different skills might be tho.
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Aug 3, 2010 18:03:16 GMT -5
Post by slackerfuu on Aug 3, 2010 18:03:16 GMT -5
Oh. In that case, yes. Neos works. didn't know who he was at first. now i do.
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Aug 3, 2010 18:13:52 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 3, 2010 18:13:52 GMT -5
I think the list is useful for those who haven't been part of the conversation and would like to quickly see where we are. However, We've been updating it quickly enough that I won't post it for a while.
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Aug 3, 2010 19:11:15 GMT -5
Post by daisy_strike on Aug 3, 2010 19:11:15 GMT -5
A little hints about the combat system.
One I really won't put a combat system in the first official release.
There will be 3 places that you will be able to do combat
an arena for gladiators
and 2 dungeon crawls the pit and the green.
The system will be close to old school FF hp mp with drop down attack lists. ( I really want to do chibi forms for the characters)
Hope that helps
Daisy
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Aug 3, 2010 19:21:10 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 3, 2010 19:21:10 GMT -5
yay sprites. the most perfect form of rpg character.
I know you also wanted to use a lot of raidy stuff so how bout sprite based monsters when you defeat them you get the pic from either raidy or the monster encyclopedia. also hentai from hell has a ton of pics of monster girls.
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Aug 3, 2010 19:39:43 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 3, 2010 19:39:43 GMT -5
Hmm. So, are you planning for allowance of party-based combat?
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Aug 3, 2010 19:45:32 GMT -5
Post by daisy_strike on Aug 3, 2010 19:45:32 GMT -5
Most definitly want party based combat. What fun is it if you, your assistant, and a couple slaves cant go out to fight together? Daisy
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Aug 3, 2010 20:06:24 GMT -5
Post by swordwind on Aug 3, 2010 20:06:24 GMT -5
Good to hear.
Also, lmfao. I saw that picture the other day, when I was trolling Gelbooru for Mugi pics.
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Aug 3, 2010 20:24:53 GMT -5
Post by flagnine1 on Aug 3, 2010 20:24:53 GMT -5
poor Azunyan. she can't get her actual name even in a rip off of final fantasy.
Couple of changes:
Should make coven mistress restricted.
here is the farm pet tree they all basically advance down the same path.
to start the tree you visit the farm several times. (similar to maid and whore now) at which point you slave thinks she understands how to become one.
you train your slave till one of the three skills is at 100.
at which point your slave says that she is ready to become a full fledged pony, cow, or pig girl. (depending on training) but you need to visit the farm for her to learn how to advance.
upon arriving at the farm the farmer tells you he can train her for very cheap (like 50g) or he can show you how to do it for a lot more (like 500g). having him teach you gives you the basic skills to train the type of farm girl tho so you no longer need to pay to advance.
after this he runs the girl thru the basics of the class. and thus they advance. (actual text to come later)
Pony Girl Trotting - how well your girl trots like a pony, also affects her racing Grooming - how well groomed and pretty your pony girl is. Plowing - How well your pony girl does field work
once one of these skills are at 100 you can once again go back to the farm and have her evaluated. all the advanced pony girls even if that is there only class sell for huge amounts of money at auction.
high trotting makes her a race pony
high grooming makes her a show pony
high plowing makes her a work pony
also a pony girl with 100% in futa slave skill can become a stallion pony girl. are rare and prized class that the longer a slave trains in it the more horse-like her dick becomes.
Race Pony Speed - how fast she can run Endurance - how long she can run Dressage - the slaves ability to remain horse-like during the race
Show Pony Presentation- over all appearance of the pony girl Manners - how well behaved she is Conformation- her ability to trot and gait
Work Pony Pulling- her ability to pull loads Sexual- her ability to please sexually Endurance- how long she can work (yes I know I used the same stat twice. need another stat to replace one of them)
Stallion Pony Girl Sexual -her ability to please sexually Girth -the thickness of her dick Length- the length of her dick (note: every day a stallion does not have sex there lust will dramatically increase and their sanity will decrease. until they can't control themselves and go on a rampage raping every thing they can find)
I know I said all of farm pet but this post is getting long. so cow girl and pig girl will get there own posts.
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